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Daniel Aaron:
What does it take to create a vibrant, thriving life? First, the sad news is that Thoreau was right most people are leading quiet lives of desperation, lacking in meaning, fulfillment, and vitality. But we choose more. We choose to create extraordinary lives and the art of vibrant living. Show entertains you with inspiration, empowerment and education to create your life into a masterpiece. It's time. Let's vibe up. Hello. Aloha, y'all. My friends. Welcome to the show. This is the Art of Vibrant Living show. I am Daniel Aaron, your host, and we got a great show. So cool. The art of vibrant living. Today's guest is like a poster child for that. And it didn't necessarily come easy. I'll tell you more about her in a moment first. What is this show all about? What is this the art of? Well, it's an art because there is no specific way. It depends on you. Of course it takes information, it takes intention. And that's what this show is all about. Is entertaining you? Yes. Also empowering you to live your most amazing, purpose filled, passion filled life so that your impact and your income and your entire life is thriving in the ways that you want. So please, one request as you watch this show today. Yes, be entertained, be inspired. That'll happen automatically and take something. Choose one piece or more and say, wow, I can apply that to my life. Don't fall for the old oh, I already know that stuff. No, go for mastery, go for how can I apply that more in my life? Take one thing, at least from today's show, from our amazing guest and apply it in your life. And if you want help with that, please reach out. It's my greatest privilege and honor to serve people like you, to help you overcome obstacles and create your life into a masterpiece. Now today's guest is phenomenal. Olga, whose last name I'm not going to pronounce. Oh well, it's not that bad. Compara close enough. She'll tell me if I got it right. A phenomenal woman who has overcome a tremendous amount. Born in the Czech Republic, I think it's now called Czechia. There's some debate about what the official name is now, um, when it was in communism. Right. And so she not only lived behind an iron Curtain, she overcame that. She has an amazing story which forms the basis of her book, uh, whose title? Let me make sure I get the title exactly right. Uh, behind enemy lines. Oh, Saint. Behind enemy lines. Goodness. Um. And the amazing. Let me stop talking about her because you can meet her yourself. What an inspiring, inspiring, amazing woman. We're graced to have her with us today. So, Olga, thank you so much for not only being with us, but for what you've accomplished and created in your life. It's tremendous and inspiring. Thank you for being with us.

Olga Campora:
Thank you and thank you for the acknowledgment. Danielle, it's great to be with you.

Daniel Aaron:
Well, and you know, I never know for sure what's going to happen on the show, right? What what we're going to talk about, I don't know for the guests like what's going to be the the biggest nugget of gold. They get to me, though with your story and you've got so much experience, so much wisdom. You've helped so many people in so many different ways. And just just what you've overcome in your own life is so inspiring and empowering for people. Um, and so would you start with that? Would you share a little bit of, of of what your journey has been? Um, just to give some context for who you are for our audience?

Olga Campora:
Absolutely. Well, it's a great pleasure to be on this, uh, the Art of, uh, Vibrant living show. Um, because. The vibrant life is something that has been always, um. Uh, I get journey for me. You know, I share with Aaron all the way. Um, before we got on a, you know, on the stream here that actually, when I was back growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, it came to the point when, um, I started writing a newsletter that was called the Art of Vibrant Living and, um, uh, umehani and Czech language, and it just was my way to share a little bit of light in a place that was truly dark as far as looking into possibilities that people can create in their lives, because every single, uh, aspect of their lives, uh, was in some way controlled by the government. And so, um, yes, I was growing up back in what was called Czechoslovakia, and then later on it became the Czech Republic and today Czechia. And, um, I was born in time that that was a full, uh, communist government in power. And, uh, I remember just we are coming into the holiday season, Christmas. And I remember it was the only time of a year that I actually was able to taste it. Uh, fruits such as, uh, oranges or pineapple or bananas. Those things were not ever available to me during the year. So I remember how always it was just kind of fantastic to, uh, come into this season and have some goodies that other people in other parts of the world where I like, uh, they would not even think like, is that possible that you didn't have bananas during the year? I eat banana every single, uh, every single morning. So yes, it was a completely different, uh, environment I was growing up. And honestly, as I was older, I just felt like, you know, there was a certain regret, like, what would happen if I were born in a different place, how my life would be with so many, you know, possibilities, um, and so many opportunities that I don't have. And later on, we can kind of, you know, expand on it. I realize, wow, the greatest blessing of my life was that I was born in a soil where I was born in a communist Czechoslovakia. It was the greatest gift that the creator or divine or whatever you call it, what it's, you know, close to your heart, has given me as a soil to become who I have become today. And I'm just so grateful for that.

Daniel Aaron:
Well, that's beautiful. And and I think I know what you mean. Um, and but let's let's play with that a little bit because. It's I mean, it sounds. I mean, you've only told a little bit. Okay? You didn't get bananas during the year. Okay. That's that's something that. Yeah, we take for granted over here. But that's, that's not the hardest thing, right? That's not the the darkness that you were bringing light into. Okay. That's that's one symptom. But I know I mean, I only know from, from what I've heard, I wasn't there, but there was a lot more challenge and darkness in that. So how is it that you can look back, look at that and say, oh, wow, what? That's the greatest gift.

Olga Campora:
Yes. I think what is just, you know, remarkable as I look back is that. When you are in a place that the choices seem to be limited. If you want to live a life that is exciting, one thing is really important and that is that you need to become creative. Mm. Meaning where whenever there is someone telling you no. I have landed. And you know anyone telling me? No, it's the greatest opportunity to create. Yes. And I would give you, you know, some examples, you know, from my life, uh, when I, um, was finishing high school, I, uh, wanted to enter university level and study. And I learned that I could not be accepted at the university. You had to pass some exams. I passed the exams. Everything was fine. And I just got a letter that said that for a high number of the applicants, we cannot accept you at the school. But that really is a BS because as I was looking around at other people from high school who were accepted, I knew what their grades were. I knew know who they are, that they were kids of, you know, some communists. You know, that, you know, we had in a town. And I realized that it was not necessarily the performance, you know, that was counted, but it was just belonging or not belonging to a to, to a Communist party. So that was the very first awakening in my life to realize, oh. Oh, I just kind of, you know, see that I can try as hard as I can, but I need to become very creative how to just, you know, how to go about it. So, um, if I may just kind of tell you, this is kind of a cool story because, of course, I was devastated and my parents had only a certain amount of resources to, to help me to go forward. And they told me, Olga, we just cannot help you. It's just, you know, to get you into the school, you know, you have to find a way. And I did. I was very, very active in sports. And, uh, at that point, I was, uh, uh, involved in fencing and I was competing on national level in fencing and, um.

Olga Campora:
And I tell you how that is just, you know, connected to the story I want to tell you, I had to find a job because, you know, I was not accepted, you know, at the university. So I had to find a job, and I found a job at school, and I was helping, you know, the teachers. And that was one particular teacher who taught physical education. And we became really good friends. She was very young, and I told her my story and she just told me, Olga, the only way for you to get to the university is that you need to build up on the fact that you are actually competing for the country in fencing, so that the communists can see that you are actually contributing to the government. So she suggested, let's study physical education. And the way the the educational system was set up was that you have to pick two subjects, you know, and she told me, and pick a communist philosophy or a civic education as your second degree. And I was like, are you kidding me? Do you mean that I. In order to get in a school, I have to just, you know, I mean, I love physical education, and I was fine, you know, to get me, you know, in that direction. But just kind of. In addition, she has told me that's the only way you have to show that you are just, you know, aligning with the system. Anyway, to make the story short, I did that and I actually was able to to get into school and then a little bit changed, just kind of, you know, the direction of my study. And it was just, you know, awakening that I realized, okay, you know, uh, and that is a chapter in my book, The Stand Behind Enemy Lines. When I call the tour, I had to take kind of, you know, the tour in order to kind of, you know, to get into the school. And it was, you know, it was such a wonderful opportunity for me because I am from a really tiny small town that has had that point, about 3000 inhabitants, you know. So it was a small little town and suddenly I got into a bigger place.

Olga Campora:
I it's, you know, I was studying in Brno, which is the second largest university, you know, in the Czech Republic. And that open up a door to scanf to, um, not only in a study, but just into a life that allowed me just to start seeing more, being more and realizing there is more to life. So that was very first experience where I realized I know is the is not an answer for me. And let's go and find the way that just, you know, I can really live the life of my dream and, and moving forward and little I know where that took me, you know, that could be another story. So but so I thought that it would be really good to maybe share that, you know, for the listeners, um, why I am saying that, you know, I really actually appreciate what I was born because it helped me to be incredibly creative and just know is answer for me.

Daniel Aaron:
That's beautiful. And it is. It's a great story. It's inspiring. It says so much about who you are. And part of what I love about that is, you know, I'm guessing that very few of our audience members right now are, you know, living in a communist regime and have trouble getting out of it. Right? So they're not going to relate exactly like that, though. Who amongst us hasn't wanted something gone for something? Who amongst us right now doesn't have a dream or a goal and then encounter some kind of obstacle to it, right? Encounter some way that the world or the government or our partner or whatever it is says no, right? And on some level that's like it's always an opportunity, a test to say, okay, well, thank you for that. Let me let me find another way. Let me, let me persevere inside myself and find another way. So what you shared is, is directly applicable for everyone 100%. Yeah. So would you. Let's say this also because most of us don't have the experience of, uh, the the experience of being an immigrant, right, of of being in one country and leaving to another. I lived a lot of my life as an expat expatriate, uh, living in another country, but not the same thing. I wasn't leaving. Well, I was I was going to say I wasn't leaving a dark place, although on some level, I was leaving the United States. And there is there are elements of darkness to the United States. Every, every country has its light and dark. Right? I lived in other countries, but not for the same kind of reasons. And then I also had the experience of of living overseas for 20 something years and coming back to the US and saying, oh, now I feel like an immigrant in the country I was born in. But for you, that was a really big transition to go from, from communism, from, uh, Czechoslovakia, as it was called then, to live in the West. And your first destination was Canada, is that right?

Olga Campora:
No, actually, my first destination was, uh, Utah.

Daniel Aaron:
Oh, right. Okay. Well, so anyway, what I was going to ask is, how did that happen? What? You know, what was your experience? Because there's there's some, uh, cool and miraculous pieces to that if I'm remembering. Right?

Olga Campora:
Yes. Yes, absolutely. So what actually happens? Uh, at the university level where I was, I was interested in yoga, and I met a really great friend of mine, and she told me, Olga, I just know this guy who is absolutely incredible. He wrote the first uh, uh, book about yoga. He's someone who is recognized, you know, in our country, um, to establish yoga, you know, in, in, in a communist Czechoslovakia. And she just says, you know, if you are interested, we can go and we can visit him. So. That visit. That visit with, uh, what I would call my first coach, my first mentor and my first teacher, Mr. Wojtkowska, Mr. Otakar Wojtkowska. That first meeting has completely changed my life. I went there with my friend, with my Czech friend, my friend. Never ever would go back. You know, sometimes you have people in our lives, right, Daniel? That they just, you know, are the pathway for us to open up the door. And she was one of them. And I'm so grateful for her, you know, that she did that because that open up the journey to start studying with a gentleman who knew so much about life. The first thing when I walked into his house, he was in his 70s. And when I walk in his house and in his living room, it was full of books. But it was really interesting because it was just very different type of books. I could see, like I was asking like, what are these books? They don't look just like normal books, meaning the way they look, the covers, and it's just as well my wife, she has been translating some books, you know, into Czech and, and so we just type them on the recorder, make a few copies, and we gave them some friends. And that's just the way, you know, we have grown spiritually, you know, in our lives. And so I was introduced to this just absolutely a new life and new life, meaning really introduced to something that I was longing, you know, since I was a little kid, I feel like I intentionally was drawn to spirituality. You know, when you talk about vibrance, vibrance just kind of means full of spirit, right?

Olga Campora:
And, you know, I know that since I was a little kid, that was something in me. I knew that that was something more to life, and I couldn't put a finger on it. And so when I met this man and I saw the library and, you know, and so many just kind of resources there, I just knew that I came to the place that it's going to be transformational to my life. And it was because, you know, I started studying with him, yoga. And then, of course, you know, uh, it just brought me to understanding a little bit my connection with whatever we would call it, with divine, with God, with Heavenly Father, with, uh, Jehovah, whatever we call it, just, you know, which, you know, that was so instrumental to me to realize, yes, that power is out there. And I'm also part of that just kind of, you know, divine power. And so that was when I was 19 years old. And and what happened was at that point is I also did not know that he was a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, and I didn't even know what that religion was about. And so when he introduced me, you know, to, um, all the resources. I was totally blown away by just the way this man was living his life. You met him and you just met. You just saw him. And there was a light that was just simply a light. His smile was just big. He was sort of a guy, you know, but he opened up the door and all what you could see. Beautiful eyes and a huge big smile. And so I knew that this, uh, this guy was really living what he was, you know, talking about, um, we know that if you want to know somebody's heart, look, just kind of, you know, what their actions are. And I saw what he was creating and how he was helping other people. And so, honestly, it just brought me to two sources of spirituality. One of them was yoga, and the other one was The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. Both of the resources were kind of a hidden, you know, uh, in front of the communists because both of the yoga and the church exist more, more or less under in the underground, you would have you would have to be very careful the way you share yoga.

Olga Campora:
And there was no way to talk about the church because the church had origin here in the United States and therefore, um, it was an enemy, whatever was from the United States, it's an enemy. So, um, of course it's it was just all of these sources were underground, and I cannot tell you how actually grateful I am that it's kind of strange, you know, that I am a Yogi, and I'm also a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, and I'm the member of the church, and I am just so open to yoga and any other resources that help me to grow, to be, to be more loved, to be more at service. But just kind of that's my foundation, all of these sources, you know, and I know that it's kind of almost sounds controversial, but it just works beautifully to me. And it was because of, you know, being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, I got this incredible invitation to come to the United States as a translator. And, you know, honestly, at that point when I was invited to come to do some translation, um, for the church, I just, you know, knew that that was absolutely impossible because I was young, I was single. Well, that's a red flag for sometimes somebody to leave the country. And, um, and when I was, when, uh, when I was asked to come, you know, I just said, well, it's great. I really appreciate just, you know, the invitation that I got to come, but I just knew that probably it's not going to be possible, but I was just like, okay, let's go. Now, you need to know that if you wanted to travel to a Western country or especially to the United States, you had to have a several number of signatures from communists. And if only one signature would be no or or one under one, just kind of line would be no, we don't recommend this person to go. You just, you know, you you need it. Many signatures. And if there's one. No, you didn't go. And I'll tell you. I know that just the universe wanted me to be here in this land, because I could not believe it.

Olga Campora:
It was time after time. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I was like, oh my goodness, there is something bigger in this than I can even comprehend. And so I open up to it. And and I really came because people just kind of gathered the money for me to buy me the tickets so that I could come, because my check money didn't mean anything. You know, it came like, what, $150 in my pocket. But, you know, it's just it was such a beautiful way for the universe to just guide me. And I just open up to it. Of course, it was scary because I can completely in a place where life and and just environment was just so different. I'll tell you something, you know, just, you know, Danielle, when I first learned it. So my, my first place was, you know, to come to Utah. And I remember just looking from the airplane and seeing the vast just kind of, you know, nature around me and the mountains because, you know, how beautiful just kind of, you know, you know, mountains are around that area, something, you know, like my my heart, like, you know, it's, you know, like exploded. I just remember, like, I walked outside of the airplane, was walking at just kind of three airport there in Salt Lake, and I saw the mountains and I walk outside on the street, and I and I felt this sense of spaciousness and, and freedom not even talking to anybody. Because, you know, when you live in Europe, everything is a little bit just, you know, people live very close to each other, you know, and suddenly I was just, you know, and it was not only physical space, you know, Danielle, it was just, you know, I sense, you know, just the, the, the majesty of possibilities that just kind of are there. That was the one thing, you know, like, anything is possible for me. Anything is possible. So it was just, you know, really a marvelous, you know, experience that I have had just to be brought here. And I honestly thought that I would be just here for the amount of time that, you know, I was invited to come, but, you know, then other things took on, on, on its own meaning my husband and, uh, and just, you know, getting married and just really establishing my life here, you know, in the United States.

Olga Campora:
And I just cannot tell you it's just any time. Of course, in the beginning, you are so homesick. I struggle with the language, you know, because there are. Back in the Czech Republic, I got PhD. I was, you know, teaching on, you know, university level here. I came and I spoke like a five years old. So that was a cool experience to crush the ego. And I love that, you know, so so it's just, you know, it has been a quite, you know, remarkable opportunity. And it's again just, you know, looking you know, like you said, you know, it's not the, the place but what you make it mean because you can be anywhere in the world. It's really, you know, what do you choose to think about it? What you choose, how deliberate you are, you know, to to live life, that it's on purpose and that that has been something living on purpose, that has been something that has been just like a bloodline, you know, bloodline in me inside, you know, because I know that the reason I'm on this earth is to love like nobody's business, love myself, love God, love people around me, and just to be at service, I'm just so excited, you know, to be in such a great health. I'm 63 years old and I'm in such a vibrant health, and I'm so grateful for it that I just, you know, I just look for another 30, 40 years just kind of, you know, and I see myself serving and living and just really uplifting other people's lives because my life has been incredibly blessed. It doesn't mean it was always easy, but it has been incredibly blessed.

Daniel Aaron:
Wow, that. That's beautiful. All that you said, it brought for me 27 new questions and, uh, so much. Well, so let me start with this. Acknowledging you for the courage that you had, right? Yes. The persistence, the perseverance. But the courage you talked about how, you know, being a young, single woman is red flag somebody that might, you know, not come back to the communist country, but also single young woman. Of course, that's going to be a scary experience to go do that. So the courage that you had to say, all right. And you know what's also and you really referred to this second part in the midst of what you said, the the compassion and the desire to serve and help other people. Right? That's a through line that I'm seeing through all of your stories now. That's been part of their from creating a newsletter with a wonderful title, the Art of Vibrant Living. Right. Wanting to bring some light to people, to saying, wow, how can I share with people in my current life and my work? How can I bring this translation work to help people? Right. So, and there's of course, a relationship between courage and compassion, because when we have a desire to help someone, well, we have to go out of ourself and oftentimes out of our comfort zone. It takes courage. And when I relate to your story about the language, too, because when I the first place I lived overseas was Spain, and when I moved there, I didn't know, like I didn't know three words and I was right away over my, you know, over my head not. And pretty soon I'm like, hey, my savings have run out, I gotta make some money. So I started doing what I was doing, which was astrology. That was my main work at the time. And one of my first clients said to me, you know, Daniel and she said it in Spanish. She said, you're a very good astrologer, but you have the vocabulary of a child.

Olga Campora:
Ah.

Daniel Aaron:
It was great. It was completely true. And but like you, for me that was a blessing because. Because I realized like, yeah, I don't know a lot of words in this language. So now I'm learning. How do I communicate? How do I reach this person? I want to express myself with this limited vocabulary. And of course, after that I was like, I think I need to learn some other specific words about this world. But it's such a powerful thing to to learn a different language and be in a place where you don't speak the language. Um, and of all the many directions we could go, I want to snap back for a minute because you said something that really caught my attention. And if I understood right, you were speaking about two important parts, or two of the important parts of your life. Is your involvement with the church. Right. And I get that, and I respect that and appreciate that. Um, as Rumi said, there are a thousand ways to kneel and kiss the ground. And then on the flip side, right. Relatedly, there's the Rumi Bridge here to yoga. And, um, and for me, I grew up like with no religion. Right. Everybody had just abandoned religion. And and it wasn't until I got a kind of a divine whack on the head that I could even open up to the word god. Um, but before that, I got into yoga and I started learning about these eastern things. And then it really surprised me that for a lot of people in the world, church or religion, and especially in some realms in Christianity, is kind of like opposed to yoga. Somebody actually said to me a couple of weeks ago, like, you know, Daniel, you seem like a very spiritual guy, but I heard you talk about, um, astrology. And my response was yes. And and then I realize, oh, right. For him like that's like like in his, his worldview, that's kind of like devil's work or something like that. I think I heard you referred to that. There's sometimes is a schism that is not there for you. So can you say more about that? What do you experience.

Olga Campora:
Such a beautiful, beautiful, just, you know, topic? Yes. Because, you know, I think on the both sides of aisles, you know, organized religion or just kind of, you know, being completely a free spirit. I think what is, you know, really important is for people to find a common language. It's just so easy to just go all the way to one side, you know, whatever it is. Okay? And that's the only way. Right? And if you just kind of, you know, close yourself, you know, that way you are blind. You are even blind, actually, in pursuit of, you know, your spirituality within the place that you feel comfortable because you are only within a certain boundaries. I think that we are stepping into the century where I feel that, you know, it just doesn't matter for people what they, you know, how they relate to God or divine, you know. But how how are you showing up, you know, are you really someone who can love everybody? You know, even though that you might not agree just with the way you know what they believe in or how they believe or how they perceive, you know, God or a divine, or they don't believe at all, you know, they are atheists, you know, how can we just, you know, step up in this 21st century and find a common word, a common language, because I know that it sounds completely just, you know, for some people who are from Yuga world and they hear, you know, like, oh, she's a member of the church, you know, or she's a, she's in organized religion. Well, there is something wrong about it. Well, do you know what? If you think that way. Think again, because that's not my problem. It's your problem. What is the most important thing is how I am showing up, you know, am I really? The expression of God? Am I really someone who is an eternal and divine, just kind of, you know, child of the universe? Because I look at myself as I am God's perfect creation. If you have a problem with that, it's not, you know, your problem, it's my problem. So going back, I think, you know, going to both sides of aisle.

Olga Campora:
So there are more aisles not to just, you know, organize an unorganized. I think it's just we need to just find the way, you know, how can I respect, you know, when someone you know is this and is that how do I look at it? Do I look at them as Yogi? Do I look at them as a member of the church? Do I look at them as a Buddhist? Do I look at him as a muslim? And because of that, I have some beliefs and reservations. Okay? Or am I capable in whoever I am? Because you know, I am unique. There is no other Olga, there is no other Daniel in this world. And so for my spirit and for my eternal progression, it is exactly what I need. And if there is something I need to drop off and, uh, and shed my skin and find something more, I am all up to it. But I am always open to just kind of, you know, anything new, you know, like you are talking about astrology. There is really a lot to astrology, you know, and of course, in organized religion, you just say, well, that's the word of, you know, the devil, you know. So it's just like, can I look at the things and still see things? I mean, there were like, you know, three those, uh, when Jesus was born, there was those three, uh, what do you call those? Not three angels. Three, uh, kings who were coming right to meet him. Well, and they were talking about the stars. You know, we have even in the, in the New Testament. Think about it. They knew something about the stars, right? Not something. But they knew a lot. But, you know, so going back into it, I really my you know, because these are especially what's happening in the world right now where we are, you know, um, what's happening just, you know, in, in, in, in Gaza and Palestine and Jerusalem and all these places, you know, I think that we are really stepping, you know, into a new place to realize, you know, I really cannot change anybody 100 miles away from me.

Olga Campora:
But I really have the influence to change where I am standing, you know? Can I listen to someone not completely agree and have a beautiful conversation that it's based on love that I am searching for? Where can we agree? Because when we find that place, we find love. We find love for each other. And we find we find love, you know, in our common just kind of grammar and communication, we both of us will grow and we both of us will leave the conversation up leveled, uplifted. And appreciating to scan of you know each other journey and honoring it. So I don't know. I know that it's probably answers your question in just more general terms, but I'm just so passionate about this because in both fields, in yoga, I see people who are so judgmental or so dismissive of certain things, and I see that my church, you know, as well, you know, and I think it's time to rise up. It's time to just kind of, you know, uplevel ourselves where and the place of unconditional love, and especially in the level of how we treat ourselves. There is a scripture in the New Testament that talks about love thy God with all thy strength, all thy heart, all thy mind. And love thy neighbor as thyself. And I think that a lot of us, you know, who belong also to the Christian world, we forget about this last part, that we are supposed to love the neighbor just like ourselves. And Danielle. This has been a really huge, big work for me. This whole just kind of past few years, and especially this year, I have realized how the most important work I can do is really to find a healthy relationship with myself, to love myself, to treat myself as a friend. Because as I have been on this journey loving myself, I realize how much closer I am to God, how much closer I am to my awesome husband, to my boys, to my sons, to anyone around me. And so I just, you know, hope that that is something that, you know, some people, you know, in the Christian world recognize that it's actually a healthy, very healthy thing to create the most loving relationship with yourself because you can only love other people to the level that you really love yourself.

Daniel Aaron:
Wow. That's beautiful. Thank you. And and I appreciate you expanding the question because it's it's true. It's you know, there are people over here who think this is the right way and those one. But it happens equally, you know, in all kinds of camps. Of course, not for everybody, but certainly people, you know, and call it, uh, exclusivity or thinking I've got the right way or spiritual snobbery is, you know, a way that it shows up sometimes. Right? And, you know, I'm with you like, it seems like the biggest lesson that we need on the planet right now is. To. To love thy neighbor, to love the person with the other religion, the other color skin. I would say the person with the other species. Right? Maybe they've got four legs instead of two, right? They deserve love also. Right. And I you know, I know it's funny, as you said, that it brought me a new awareness, which was when I was a kid. I not only was it does I not come up in religion, I was opposed to religion. Like I had an issue with religion as a kid. And part of that was because I saw so much hypocrisy. Absolutely right. And like you said, well, sometimes people forget about that. Love thy neighbor as thyself part. And not everyone, of course, are always exceptions. So for me, when I had the the blessing of the the spiritual two by four upside the head, then it came to me like, oh, you know what? The divine which now I can use the word God is everywhere, including in religion, right? You can find it there too. And one of my favorite quotations from Shri Bhagwan Rajneesh said, the purpose of all of our education is to learn to love, right? Like it's all about learning to love. And I'm listening to a book right now called Love Yourself like your life depends on it, right? And and even though it's not been a foreign concept to me, that loving myself is the same as loving you is the same as loving my daughter or my cat or my friend. It's a different thing to know it in the head and to feel it in the heart. Like the the great Native American expression that the the human, the longest human journey is from the head to the heart to be able to apply that. So thank you for being such a not just a voice for that wisdom of love and inclusion, but for practicing that and bringing it in your in your life and bridging these worlds. Yeah. So go ahead.

Olga Campora:
May I just kind of, you know, I really love, you know, some of the listeners might not know, uh. Steve Harrison. Uh, there is a really beautiful book that it's called The Ultimate Coach that was written by his wife. Um, Amy Harrison and Alan Dean Thompson. And I really love this book. This book really had opened up, you know, to me, eyes to. Who I am being because I had it kind of, you know, backwards. Before that, I always was thinking, you know, you have to do, do, do things in order to become something and therefore have something. And, uh, it is this book that had introduced me completely to a new concept and that is that it is be, do and have and. What I really love in that it's a phenomenal book, and one of the things that I really love, what Steve says is that. You know, learn to listen. Learn to listen and and and study from any books of wisdom. And he is saying, and if you like, don't like the anchovies, just leave the anchovies and take out of the pizza what you like about pizza, you know, and and I love that, you know, I love that about just kind of, you know, the approach of being open to study, to explore, to expand and simply if there is something that you don't resonate with, it's okay. But it doesn't have to be for so many people, you know, as soon as they see something, you know, that is just, you know, that anchovy, they just, you know, like put things down. And I think for me, that was a huge opening. You know what Steve said? Because it's just so true. Because there are so many not only wonderful resources, but you you see some really great people, you might not agree with certain things. Take the anchovies, you know away and just think, what can I like? How can I grow from this? What is what is there for me that I can really be more loving, you know, and as well, because like you said, you know, Danielle, it's in the end it's all about love. And really, I, you know, my vision is, you know, uh, going forward in the world, I see the world coming to better together, meaning all people together, regardless the spirituality or whatever the corners of the are.

Olga Campora:
We need to learn how to unite, how to speak the language of love. And I think that is the most important thing. And whatever just kind of helps you, Danielle, to do that. Go for it. Whatever helps me just kind of, you know, let's go for it. Because at the end, you know, love is everything. I am love and love is everything, you know. And if I live from just, you know, that place, I know that my life has meaning. Because at the end, if you look at all people, Einstein, all people just, you know, who created, um, Gandhi, you know, it's just people who have really created something incredible in the world. It was through the lenses of love. Because from love there comes, you know, the the compassion. It comes the the strength, the courage. You know, the capability to overcome. Because if I love, I don't have fear, right? And if I don't have a fear, I might do things that are uncomfortable and mainly just kind of being myself. I am not apologetic who I am, and if people have a problem with that, that's fine. But I know, you know, I have met, you know, this year someone who just, you know, really also, uh, you know, has helped me to understand how we impact other people's lives. His name is Alok, and I hope that I pronounce his name good. Uh, Alok. Appadurai. I hope that I am not butchering butchering his name, but he said something really interesting that we, each of us, have the capacity to uplift the millions. And I was like, well, wait a minute. Because he was like, you are capable to uplift millions. And what he is saying that, you know, when you, Daniel, when you work with your client and you help your client, you are not only helping your client, you are helping his relationship. You are helping his family. You are helping him to show up in his business, in his world, in his community. In his way of influence, that he is uplifting other people, and when he is uplifting others, then it just kind of, you know, like this ripple, you know, effect that we have.

Olga Campora:
And I think it's really good to kind of to, to have that vision. I and I cut that vision that Alex just, you know, share with me because I honestly feel yes, that's true. I, you we all of us, our mission is uplift millions. And doing it just, you know, by loving work that we do, whatever that means in the niche and in the just kind of field of work that we do. You and me as, as coaches and other people in different, you know, uh, in different jobs and occupations. But for me, that's what it's about. Can I have that vision that my work has impact and I know that it has, and I know that you do as well.

Daniel Aaron:
Beautiful. Nicely said. Yeah. And we never we never know the full extent of our efforts. Right. Yet if we if we hold ourselves to, to, to the vision and maybe even hold ourselves isn't the right way of saying it, if we if we raise ourselves up to a higher vision. Vision that that what I'm doing, the way I'm carrying myself through the world, the work I'm doing is for a purpose as noble, as uplifting millions, as serving millions. Then much more likely that we we rise to a higher level of possibility for the way we carry ourselves and the impact that we create by having that vision.

Olga Campora:
Yeah, because it's you who elevates the world, you know, it's the way I show up purposefully every day. You having the show as having this conversation. I know that there is going to be at least one person, that this conversation is going to be transformational in one way or another. They shift something you know, in their way of being who they are, how they are showing up, and there simply will be then other just kind of shifts that will happen in the lives, you know. And so that's just what it's just, you know, so beautiful. Be intentional, just like you are intentional about the beautiful work that you know you are doing. You are just you are a giant in in the way how you are presenting to scan. You know yourself and giving people opportunities to share. You know their heart because that's what we are doing. You have allowed me to just share my heart and I cannot thank you. Just kind of, you know, enough for that because it's so, you know, this is so beautiful to be able to do that.

Daniel Aaron:
Well thank you, I appreciate that and what a gift it is to have you with us and to step back for a moment. You spoke about the book The Ultimate Coach and, um, and Steve Harmison and Amy Harmison. And for any of our viewers who haven't seen it, Amy was a guest on this show a few weeks ago. So you could find that under the past shows, um, extraordinary. And the influence that that that book in that community has had on many people, ourselves included, is phenomenal. So now August, since time is flying along here and I've got so many things I would love to ask you about, and we could talk for hours. Let me pause, though, and shut my mouth and say, what have I not asked you about? Or what else would you like to share that is is most resonant with your heart?

Olga Campora:
All so beautiful, so beautiful. Thank you so much. I think that, Danielle, one thing that I really have learned more recently. In. Just the way who I am being is, how really important the word commitment is. I always knew. That anything that I have created in my life comes from the level of commitment that I have. But recently I just, you know, learned how. When I have I really 100% commitment. I really show up in a completely different way. I am still learning how to be my word 100%. Meaning just when I say something that I will do it. And so I've been really more intentional where I say yes and when I say no, because commitment to me is everything in my personal growth. The other thing that I wanted to just, you know, share is that. The word retire is not in my vocabulary. There is just this fun book. You know, for some people this is such a fun book. It's a book that says My Plan for living to 156 from Dan Sullivan. He's really very pronounced author and guy. But, you know, he says something and I have it here on just kind of, you know, my paper. He just says that there is something that happens to our brain when we accept the idea to retire. Our creative juices go bye bye. You know. And so, you know, here I am, 63, but I feel like I'm like a little bamboo. You know, if you know about bamboo, bamboo sits in the in a ground for so long nothing is going on. You have to water it. It has to have the sand. La la la la la. Nothing nothing, nothing. And then suddenly shishkanov it starts to sprout. And man, in that one year. It just grows to just kind of, you know, so many feet, so many feet to becoming a beautiful bamboo. And I honestly, I feel like a bamboo that this is happening just kind of, you know, for me that I just feel like I'm in that stage of being bamboo in my just kind of a way to be in the world and serve in, in a ways like, uh, like never before.

Olga Campora:
Just, you know, the desire and just the commitment that I have to myself and to people who I serve is just a joy. So commitment and just kind of know more territory. And then the other thing that I really want to say is. Really, honestly, having a mentor, having a teacher, having someone in your life that can see things the way you just are not able to see for one reason or another. I just cannot tell you how grateful I was when I was 19 to meet Mr. Wojtkowska in the Czech Republic, and I remember when I came here to United States, there was a long period of time where I was longing, I felt like. It's not that I need to be taught by somebody, but there was something about this guy. The way he holds space for me, the way he was able to listen to me. I just miss that. And it is just kind of, you know, in the past five years when I, you know, added to me as a yoga therapist, you know, uh, life coaching certification, I started just kind of, you know, dipping into this world that I was longing for so, so, so many years, actually, you know, more than three decades. You know, I was longing there was something inside. And, of course, so I hired, you know, uh, I hired coaches, you know, and I have currently a coach, you know, and I see how much that has helped me to move forward. So that's just for me. I know that some people, it just doesn't resonate. But for me, having an exceptional coach and being able to invest in myself. Is the best thing that has ever just, you know, happened, you know, to my life. Because I know that if somebody can look at me from a perspective for the bird's eye view that I just kind of, you know, cannot see it just, you know, all this, you know, transformational. So those are, you know, three things. You know, if people are, you know, interested, just, you know, where I'm coming from, you know, commitment. Not retiring and just, you know, all that, you know, being capable and able to invest in myself so that I can love more, I can serve more.

Olga Campora:
I can be a better spouse. I can love my husband like I have never loved him yesterday. It's my goal. It's just, you know, my family just be there and whatever it is and open up in my world that is going to teach me to love more. Bring it. So that's all what I would say.

Daniel Aaron:
That's that's great. Beautiful. And I'm with you. Coaching is not for everybody because some people, you know, want to go the slow way. Um, or are, you know, resistant for whatever reason. However, everything that you said those three points and I love all of them. Right. Uh, so yes, being able to make commitments so incredibly powerful. Yes. Also, um, having the vision of not retiring and yes, having coach mentors, people that help us. To me, all of that fits with under the basic principle of life, which is we're either growing or we're dying. And one of the basic tenement tenants of the art of vibrant living is if we want to have an extraordinary life, a vibrant life, it is an absolute prerequisite that we are consciously growing. Right, because the spirit part of all of us that came to this earth school to expand, to grow, to evolve, is thriving when we are consciously growing. And if we have if we make commitments, which sometimes is scary, and if we have a vision for our life going on and continuing and uplifting, and if we have somebody that loves us, that has some wisdom, that has perspective, that holds us to a higher standard, then we are going to be growing faster and better than we could on our own 100%. Same same for me. I have several coaches in my life I have for going on 30 something years. I've always had mentors that helped me to grow, uh, incredible. So thank you for that. And I think we better. Well, jeez, time's right. We got two things to do. So I know that you have a kind gift for our audience. Um, would you like would you be up for saying a word about that? Yes.

Olga Campora:
I will be doing a for their four day challenge that will start next Monday. That it's called, um, master the Art of Being Enough. So if people are interested to a little bit learn more how to have a better relationship with themself, how to befriend themselves, how to learn the art loving themselves, I would be happy to, you know, have them to join me. It will be Monday through Thursday. We will always meet for an hour at noon eastern time. I think that Danielle probably will put just kind of, you know, link down there. People can click on it and just, you know, be able to register. I would love to expand on these topics that we have had, you know, uh, together. So yes, we'd love to have more conversation.

Daniel Aaron:
Thank you. Absolutely. That's great. And I did I put the the the link, the URL into the comments which shows up in the various platforms. It's a little too long and, uh, funny numbers for me to say out loud. I have my limits on. I have.

Olga Campora:
You know, I have to just kind of, you know, know how to create each scan of, you know, more simple. But people can be creative. Just click on it, click on it guys, and you will get there, you know. Yeah.

Daniel Aaron:
Well and relatedly then Olga, what's the best way for people to reach you. Yes.

Olga Campora:
So my website is w w w dot Olga Campora. Com so they can, you know, go there and they can contact me from there. And I would be happy to continue the conversation if they have any questions. If they suffer with back pain, you know that's one of my, you know really strong suits. You know I really help people with that as well. So yes, please connect with me. You know as Euclid on the, on the, on the website there lots of so.

Daniel Aaron:
So for you all that are just listening, it's Olga Campora which is Olga c a m p o r a.com. And then you can reach out directly to Olga to, to get involved with the four day challenge. Definitely want to do that. You'd be foolish not to do that. Why not grow in your capacity that way with Olga? So, Olga, last question. The big question. The impossible question. Uh, because you got so much wisdom and this is just massively big, this question. Would it be okay if I ask you? Okay, so you've shared so much, you've experienced so much. If you had to boil it all down into one. Thing. One piece of advice for our audience what they could do not do, what they could, um, employ in their lives in order to create a vibrant, thriving life. What's the one thing?

Olga Campora:
And it goes back to what I said. You know, before, the most important thing is finding a common language with people who you don't like or you disagree. Just find one area, one belief, one thought that you can build on conversation to start fostering the spirit of love. That's what it's all about. Love is everything. And so that's, you know, how I would boil everything who I am. Just finding one simple thought area of, uh, agreement, belief that we can just take on together, you and me, and just create the spirit of love and start creating from that place.

Daniel Aaron:
Amen. Beautifully said. Yeah. And we could say how that is the the purest wisdom that runs through all, uh, spiritual traditions, incredible value and a massive practice. If one takes that on, um, it lasts a lifetime and yields a lifetime of benefits. So thank you for that. And, Olga, thank you just so much for not just for being on the show and taking this time, which I really appreciate also for the incredible amount of perseverance, work, courage that you've shown in your life to evolve in the ways that you have to make yourself a person of such humility and love and value to everybody you're modeling. Your presence is truly a gift to everybody, so thank you for that as well.

Olga Campora:
Well, thank you, Danielle, for seeing in me what is in you, because we can only see in others what is in us. So I see the same in you. Thank you so much for this incredible opportunity to share this space with you.

Daniel Aaron:
Oh that's beautiful. Thank you. Well, and that's a great segue for y'all, uh, in the audience because the thanks go mostly to you, because you are a legend. You are not only interested in creating more vibrancy in your life, you're doing something about it that you've had this time with us, that you've been here with us, that you care enough to invest in yourself. Highest yield. The only reliable investment in the world is the investment in yourself. That speaks volumes about you and not just you. You are changing the world, you raising your vibration, creating more passion, joy, love in your life. It does absolutely make a difference in the world and I honor you, I love you. I'm so grateful that you are doing that and privileged for this opportunity to be with you all. And again, if you would like some help, you've got so many great resources, please reach out to me. Let's have a conversation and tune in, please again next week. We've got an amazing show coming up. So y'all, thank you once again it's been the Art of Vibrant Living show until I see you next time, please make your life even more of a masterpiece. Mahalo for tuning in to the Art of Vibrant Living show y'all! I'm Daniel Aaron and may you live with great vibrancy.

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